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Baja Trip Feb 2016

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Baja Trip Feb 2016

This is quick summary of our recent trip. You can just skip to the photos if you like. http://imgur.com/a/Emxda Other wise continue reading.

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Rose, my better half by far, my son Tyler, and I left Elko about 1:30pm PST in the Bearhawk bound for Hurricane, UT to meet up with Oso Loco (BCP Handle), his daughter, and Dr. Ron. Oso was a gracious host and invited us to stay at his new house which of course we accepted. Initially we planned to leave Thursday morning and rendezvous in Yuma, AZ mid-day. With Oso’s invitation, we decided to leave the day before and it was a good thing we did. Weather forecasts showed low ceilings, snow, and wind for Elko beginning that evening but we just beat low ceilings south of Ely and watched IMC roll into valleys just as we moved east into the next ones. That said, the ride was not fun with occasional moderate turbulence and 35 to 40 mph headwinds on average. We landed at Hurricane for fuel (mogas at $4/gal) then hopped a couple of miles over to Oso’s place for the evening. With decent internet access at his house we were able to file eAPIS and DVR flight plans for next day border crossings into MX as well as weather briefings.

The next morning we woke to worse than forecast winds that were very similar to the previous day. Maxed at 50 MPH for a while. We took 28M a little further north than Ron did in his 180 and met up with the Colorado River for a second time about 30 nm north of Laughlin, NV. Ron refueled in Laughlin and we just made a bushwheel comfort stop in the desert south of Lake Havasu. Both planes arrived in Yuma just before noon and refueled at the self-service pump and topped off with $3.50 100LL. Lunch at Million Air was great and we were soon on our way in loose formation across the border where we landed an hour later in San Felipe MX.

Upon arrival we taxied up to the pump where there was one plane ahead of us. We were of course asked for our paper work and after fueling proceed to the terminal where we paid for fuel (MX$18/l), cleared immigration, customs, obtained an annual multi-trip ($120) entry permit (same cost as a one-time entry permit) filed a flight plan ($10) and provided more paperwork, then returned to immigration, then on to customs to pay another $27 per person. It all went very smooth and everyone was great to interact with and very professional.

We departed for Gonzaga Bay (Alfonsinas) after about an hour at SF. We met up there with Jim and his dad Jerry who also were out of Salt Lake City (SLC) in a C-210 and with with our group. There were also 2 RV-10's there and a Barron from SLC and the SLC crowd all knew each other but had not planned the trip together, meeting up was just coincidence; they departed in the morning. The next day we relaxed and just spent the day at the Bay. It was a great place to recharge after the previous 2 days flying. Day 3 we headed to the west coast of Baja to see the California Gray Whales that come to Lagoons to calf each year. We flew over a lot of shore line and open water so wore inflatable life jackets that Ron was good enough to loan us. The wind continued and by the time we landed the waves on the lagoon were white capping. I elected to stay on shore as I don’t do well in boats when the water is rough. Everyone else went, some assisted by Dramamine. They returned 2.5 hours later all smiles and we then had a great lunch with a choice of scallops or fish. By that time the winds were diminishing and we departed for Mulege for an overnight at the Hotel Serenidad. They have a pig roast every Saturday night so enjoyed that with the other guests buffet style. It is really nice to fly in, taxi to parking, right at the hotel. There was also a group of medical practitioners there and about 20 planes when we arrived.

The next morning Ron and I both departed solo for Loretto to get fuel. While there we met up with a friend of M6R6V’s. Fuel in Loretto was MX$15 per liter. Loretto looked to be a really nice town and I made a mental note to spend more time there on the next trip. We returned to Mulege to pick up our passengers to begin the return trip to the US. We overnighted again at Alfonsinas where we enjoyed another relaxing stay on the Bay. One thing to note here are the large tidal swings. At the highest tides, the runway becomes mostly submerged with a few inches of water so best to park above the high tide line or at the Rancho Grande strip next door! I did fly over to Rancho Grande to buy autofuel before leaving to see the Whales. Fuel worked out to about $4/gal before I got hit with a $10 landing fee. I couldn’t taxi to the pumps so used the ABW fuel bags to carry fuel to the plane. The caretaker helped and also loaned a ladder to the operation so I tipped him $5 for his efforts.

Monday we departed for the US and had a short 55 min flight to San Felipe. We fueled and got ready to depart when I realized I hadn’t filed eAPIS back to the US. My cell phone wouldn’t dial out so I borrowed Ron’s Irridum Satellite phone and got in touch with Baja Bush Pilots (Highly recommend joining and using their eAPIS service if going to MX) who had my manifest stored from our entry trip. They were able to file for me but I had to wait an hour before departure. In the meantime we used 2” wide blue masking tape to install the obligatory 12-inch numbers. When we left, I managed to reach Prescott Radio after about 20 minutes and open the DVFR flight plan. We landed in Yuma and headed to Customs where the inspector greeted us and was professional and pleasant to deal with. We followed him inside for the passport review where I received a phone call from ATC asking me if I was aware that I had to contact ATC and obtain a discrete transponder code before crossing the border. Well the obvious answer to that was no, so I was politely told very clearly to be sure I do that for future trips. Somehow I think I’ll remember that next time.

Since Ron and Oso left SF an hour ahead of us, they were taxing out as we taxied in from the fuel pumps. Up to this point we had the same head winds as the first day for nearly the entire trip. Our hats were off to them as they headed into that with the intent of reaching SLC before dark. They made it as far as Hurricane.

We were really glad that we’d made plans to visit BCP’er Rob while in Yuma so we grabbed a hotel and rental car and went to meet up with Rob and his wife for a tour of his new landing strip, and dinner. Rob’s new strip is like paradise in the desert with lush green turf and a quiet setting. After eating our fill of Pescado on Baja, we had some great local Pizza courtesy of the owner, Rob’s better half. Rob had to work that night but got a few hour reprieve because of the winds. Thanks Rob, we enjoyed the visit!

Knowing the winds were forecast to be the same headwind that had dogged us for the past 6 days, we got an early start hoping to win an hour or 2 of no wind. No dice, those winds slowed us all the way to Beatty, NV before we finally got out from under them. A quick comfort stop there, then on to Tonopah for fuel and lunch. Mark, the FBO owner was good enough to loan us his truck for the drive to town. The rest of the flight home was scenic and smooth with no headwinds! After nearly 1,800 miles of headwinds that was a welcome relief!

I must say everyone we met in Mexico was friendly and treated us very well. We really enjoyed the people. Like others have posted before, once you get used to the added bureaucracy and rather minor fees it really isn’t much of a hassle and sort of adds to the experience. Having said that, I can see where even a minor mechanical issue or event could turn into a large inconvenience due to the relative lack of infrastructure in Baja and the distances involved. I felt I need to mention that in case any of you are considering a trip. Be prepared and travel with other planes if possible. I was also really glad Ron had a SAT phone along. Getting back into the US can be a pain without internet service and they say you can’t file eAPIS more than 23 hours in advance. Ron did and it worked for him. Next time I’ll be sure mine is in place well ahead of time, too.

The link to the trip photo's is reposted here for easy reference:

http://imgur.com/a/Emxda

For more pre-departure info, the trip was also discussed on this thread before we left:

https://www.backcountrypilot.org/forum/flying-to-baja-18697?p=261172#p261172

BR
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Wow, great TR, Blackrock. Nice pics. Glad it was a success.
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Zzz wrote:Wow, great TR, Blackrock. Nice pics. Glad it was a success.


Thanks Zzz, yeah it was fun, but a long trip!

Next time, we'll spend a few extra days in Mexico I think. It is a great low-key place to relax. I hear Cabo is really touristy, but I haven't been there. We stayed away from the built up areas and that is what we prefer so it was quite enjoyable.

You might have to add it to your list!
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Yeah, I've been to Cabo a few times. It looks like you had a FAR more pleasant experience. Thanks for the write up!
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Excellent write-up and incredible pictures!!
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Re: Baja Trip Feb 2016

Thanks for sharing, great pictures and write up. I was sailing that area around 1990 and Mulege was my favorite, anchored off of Playa Santispac in Bahia Concepcion. Cabo is too touristy for my tastes. This area is a bay within a bay and as such the waters are quite clear, changing hues with depth. This contrasting with the desert setting is what is so appealing to me.
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blackrock wrote:
Zzz wrote:Wow, great TR, Blackrock. Nice pics. Glad it was a success.


Thanks Zzz, yeah it was fun, but a long trip!

Next time, we'll spend a few extra days in Mexico I think. It is a great low-key place to relax. I hear Cabo is really touristy, but I haven't been there. We stayed away from the built up areas and that is what we prefer so it was quite enjoyable.


Cabo is very touristy. You might like La Paz.
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blackrock wrote:.....I must say everyone we met in Mexico was friendly and treated us very well. We really enjoyed the people. Like others have posted before, once you get used to the added bureaucracy and rather minor fees it really isn’t much of a hassle and sort of adds to the experience. Having said that, I can see where even a minor mechanical issue or event could turn into a large inconvenience due to the relative lack of infrastructure in Baja and the distances involved. ...


Off topic a bit... a friend of mine's parents are in their 70's and have winter-vacationed in timeshare condos in Mexico a lot over the years. Now that they are both fully retired, they decided to spend the whole winter down there as they like the warmer dryer weather and their dollars go farther than at home. My friend flew down to be there after her dad had a heart episode and ended up getting some stints put in. Her husband told me that Dad was doing well, but Mom also got sick due to stress as well as from exhausting herself taking care of Dad. He told me that the hospital provides the room and the doctor but apparently has minimal nursing staff, so the patient's family (or whoever) has to do the caregiving. If the patient needs to shower, toilet, walk, whatever, it's on them. So someone on his own without close family (or whoever) available to help out would kinda be fucked. Or would have to be alert enough to be able to hire the help he needed.
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Re: Baja Trip Feb 2016

Definitely feeling stoked with the report! Great writing and photographs. I want it too :mrgreen:

I just wish seaplanes had the same freedom as in Canada. 6K miles of coastline in Mexico. Lovely Nation. Sailed my little boat to Isla Todos Santo Is. Surfed "Thor's Hammer" which was pretty much unknown at the time. We had no idea what we were doing. Loved the culture (not all, 90%) and miss the ocean there. Sounds like we can avoid the hot spots as there is plenty of room still.

BTW we flew a gigantic Mexican Flag from the mast head as a sign of respect. The US Flag also was flown a stern. International protocol.

Viva La Mexico!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isla_Todos_Santos
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hotrod180 wrote: He told me that the hospital provides the room and the doctor but apparently has minimal nursing staff, so the patient's family (or whoever) has to do the caregiving. If the patient needs to shower, toilet, walk, whatever, it's on them. So someone on his own without close family (or whoever) available to help out would kinda be fucked. Or would have to be alert enough to be able to hire the help he needed.


Well that sucks. I haven't heard of that in the places I've lived so hopefully it's an outlier. Access to good healthcare is definitely something that must be considered carefully before spending tons of time in a new country.

In general, Mexico has a much better reputation than that story and many Americans retire there after doing a cost benefit analysis and realizing that they can get better care in Mexico for the same dollar than in the US.

A good survey can be found here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3817306/

BTW, for those considering spending time somewhere outside the US you can save *tons* of money by living six months + a day away from the US. My health insurance costs dropped by two-thirds by making that move and my new policy covers me anywhere on the planet, including the US.

Edit: This happened to come across my facebook feed just now, so I thought I would add it here: http://www.businessinsider.com/ap-facin ... ico-2015-8
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blackrock wrote:
Zzz wrote:Wow, great TR, Blackrock. Nice pics. Glad it was a success.


Thanks Zzz, yeah it was fun, but a long trip!

Next time, we'll spend a few extra days in Mexico I think. It is a great low-key place to relax. I hear Cabo is really touristy, but I haven't been there. We stayed away from the built up areas and that is what we prefer so it was quite enjoyable.


Cabo is very touristy. You might like La Paz.


X2 on La Paz. It is a very nice city. I'll be haeding that way in mid April (a little late, but it's when I can do it we don't mind a little warm weather)
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hotrod180 wrote:.... He told me that the hospital provides the room and the doctor but apparently has minimal nursing staff, so the patient's family (or whoever) has to do the caregiving.....


I talked to my friend yesterday, and I got the rest of the story.
They did end up hiring a nurse, to stay with Dad at night and help out in general at the hospital in Guadalajara. They also hired another (local) nurse to help out after he went back home, about an hour away. So I assume there are a number of nurses available, it's just that they work directly for the patient not for the hospital. Not a bad system, just different, and better in a way-- the nurse can devote all their time to one patient.
She said Dad's insurance was not accepted, everything was paid by credit card. He got two stints, the total for doctor respiratory therapy & hospital was (I think) something like $14K. She called around once she got home, and said it was a bargain-- here it woulda been around $40K. She checked with his insurance and it sounds like it'll be no big deal for reimbursement- just the usual documentation required.
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My cousin lives in Bolivia and I think she said a broken arm is $50. Thanks for the great trip report and pictures. I'm to much of a worry wart to make a trip like that, although, I have hauled dairy cattle into Mexico and always remember the "good feeling" when a local American trucker told me that if I took the truck across the border I'd never bring it back. Luckily things worked out okay.
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Awesome TR, Mike! Looks like a terrific trip.
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West Baja...

My good idiot "Friend" ran over an innocent guy at K55 surfing. His head was bleeding bad and it was a mess. We then, rushed the victim to the next town screaming Doctor! We immediately were welcomed and after major stitches and (2) aspirin he was good to go. Cost $15.00 , they accepted $s too. In Hawaii the bill would of been at least $1000.00. And the wait (5) hours.

Never have had a bad experience (which we didn't start ourselves) in Mexico.
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8GCBC wrote:Never have had a bad experience (which we didn't start ourselves) in Mexico.


And now I want to have a beer with you and hear that story!
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8GCBC wrote:Never have had a bad experience (which we didn't start ourselves) in Mexico.


And now I want to have a beer with you and hear that story!


Sounds good however..

Some info has been sealed by the courts! Good lawyers :D
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8GCBC wrote:Never have had a bad experience (which we didn't start ourselves) in Mexico.


And now I want to have a beer with you and hear that story!


Sounds good however..

Some info has been sealed by the courts! Good lawyers :D


Ok, just the beer then. (which is probably how the story started anyway...)
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Re: Baja Trip Feb 2016

Years ago I sailed a 31' wooden sloop from Oregon down the west coast, along the Baja peninsula and up into the Gulf of California. I made lengthy stops at Cedros Island (where I saw the whales and learned how bad their "breath" is) in Mag Bay, Cabo, La Paz, Loreto and Mulege. I have nothing but fond memories of that trip. I'd love to visit some of the same places in my plane, but am tied down for a variety of reasons now. There may be opportunities 5 or so years down the road, so keep TRs like this coming to fuel my dreams. I enjoyed this immensely!
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Thanks to all for the great comments and feedback. I've been reflecting on the trip and how easy it would be to spend a winter or two down there to just slowdown for a while. It would be all too easy a lifestyle to get used to. Some of the photos show sailboats and the one in Gonzaga bay said he'd been there a year and a half. Not a bad way to enjoy life by escaping the daily grind most of us face. Good to hear several of you have been fortunate enough to experience it that way.

I'm looking forward to the next time for sure.

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