Model walks into prop, sues.

Discuss the legality of flying the backcountry, FARs, advocacy, and aviation relevant legislation. Please post other non-aviation related legislative or political topics in Off Topic or Hot Air. Registered users only.

Re: Model walks into prop, sues.

Postby Emory Bored » Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:38 pm

gear wrote:any golfers on this forum?? Wasn't Scruggs one of the ladies accused of having an affair with a certain famous golfer?
If Karma had anything to do with it I'd be missing more than a couple body parts.
Truly the last of the worlds great procrastinators.
User avatar
Emory Bored
Posts: 1296
Joined: Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:18 am
Location: Sparks, Nevada

Re: Model walks into prop, sues.

Postby skywagon » Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:51 pm

gear wrote:any golfers on this forum?? Wasn't Scruggs one of the ladies accused of having an affair with a certain famous golfer?


No, she wasn't



EB,

If she had been killed, absolutely the family should be compensated. Believe me, I don't agree with the entitlement attitude that is so prevalent today. Are you really going to compare this story to a couple kids breaking the law by entering a closed zoo?? This isn't a frivolous lawsuit, they're suing the insurance company because they don't believe she should be considered a passenger, and neither do I. I hope the family never reads any of your comments. I guess some people don't have a filter when it comes to firing off comments on an anonymous forum.

Chris
User avatar
skywagon
Posts: 15
Joined: Thu Aug 09, 2007 8:42 pm
Location: Allen, Texas
FindMeSpot URL: http://share.findmespot.com/shared/face ... 0XVgxnU4Kq
 
skywagon's Photo gallery

Re: Model walks into prop, sues.

Postby Emory Bored » Mon Apr 02, 2012 7:09 pm

skywagon wrote:
gear wrote:any golfers on this forum?? Wasn't Scruggs one of the ladies accused of having an affair with a certain famous golfer?


No, she wasn't



EB,

If she had been killed, absolutely the family should be compensated. Believe me, I don't agree with the entitlement attitude that is so prevalent today. Are you really going to compare this story to a couple kids breaking the law by entering a closed zoo?? This isn't a frivolous lawsuit, they're suing the insurance company because they don't believe she should be considered a passenger, and neither do I. I hope the family never reads any of your comments. I guess some people don't have a filter when it comes to firing off comments on an anonymous forum.

Chris
We'll just have to agree to disagree mister. Sorry.
Truly the last of the worlds great procrastinators.
User avatar
Emory Bored
Posts: 1296
Joined: Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:18 am
Location: Sparks, Nevada

Re: Model walks into prop, sues.

Postby kevbert » Mon Apr 02, 2012 7:42 pm

Anyone can see that she was a passenger, and the accident never would have happened if she wasn't a passenger. However, she didn't make a sweeping claim that she wasn't a passenger.

The insurance company had a limit of $100K per passenger, and then the policy defined a passenger as someone in the aircraft or getting in or out of it. She claimed that she didn't meet their definition of passenger at the moment she was injured, and therefore, she wasn't subject to the passenger limit.

The insurance company tipped their weak hand when they offered her $200K, double what they would have had to pay if they thought they were on solid ground. And, she's probably got way more than enough money to drag them through court, and she's got an excellent chance of winning thanks to the wording of the insurance policy. I don't know the maximum payoff per incident for this policy, but it's common to have a total payout limit of 1 million per incident.

She has recently announced that she reached a settlement with the insurance company. Evaluating this from the little that's known of the contractual obligations, it would seem likely that she received a large sum.
kevbert
Posts: 964
Joined: Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:10 am
Location: Idaho
 
kevbert's Photo gallery

Re: Model walks into prop, sues.

Postby MtCoyote » Mon Apr 02, 2012 7:46 pm

I'm with you EB on this one.

She walked into the prop. The prop did not walk into her.
User avatar
MtCoyote
Posts: 102
Joined: Sun Jul 16, 2006 1:55 pm
Location: Salmon Idaho

Re: Model walks into prop, sues.

Postby skywagon » Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:45 pm

MtCoyote wrote:I'm with you EB on this one.

She walked into the prop. The prop did not walk into her.


I don't thinks anyone has said otherwise. The point is that her lawsuit claims she wasn't a passenger at the time of the accident. Who knows what the insurance companies definition of a passenger is or at what point she stops being a passenger and becomes a bystander....1 minute, 5 minutes, 1 hour? Insurance companies don't offer money out of the goodness of their hearts. They knew they would be on the hook for more and lowballed the offer. I didn't comment here too speculate, simply that thought the comments were insensitive.
User avatar
skywagon
Posts: 15
Joined: Thu Aug 09, 2007 8:42 pm
Location: Allen, Texas
FindMeSpot URL: http://share.findmespot.com/shared/face ... 0XVgxnU4Kq
 
skywagon's Photo gallery

Re: Model walks into prop, sues.

Postby A1Skinner » Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:34 am

I'm with eb. Call me insensitive, but if someone walks into a noisy, windy prop, I have no problem comparing them to some kids that are dumb enough to break into a zoo and wrestle a bear... there's a major lack of common sense and awareness in our young people these days...

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
User avatar
A1Skinner
Posts: 310
Joined: Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:38 am
Location: Alberta
FindMeSpot URL: http://share.findmespot.com/shared/face ... QvVxMnGp6G
 
A1Skinner's Photo gallery

Re: Model walks into prop, sues.

Postby OregonMaule » Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:53 am

When people get insurance money for their own carelessness we all pay more for insurance. If there was a need to repair the airplane I feel the person who caused the damage should have to pay for it. If I come to any airport and approach a spinning prop and insert a object into the prop I should be responsible for the damage I cause.

Like so many things in our country this is ass backwards.

Good day
My SPOT page

Don't just be mad about people in our country illegally. DO SOMETHING POSITIVE !
http://www.numbersusa.com/content/

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety". Ben Franklin
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin
User avatar
OregonMaule
Posts: 5372
Joined: Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:44 pm
Location: Orygun
 
OregonMaule's Photo gallery

Re: Model walks into prop, sues.

Postby Emory Bored » Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:52 am

The problem as I see it is that money and/or the lack of it has been equated with misery or happiness. This is a transfer payment in economic terms. Redistribution of wealth. The actuaries used to put charts in insurance policies. An arm was $5K a leg $10K and an eye $15K. Unfortunately that never payed the bills at Dewey, Cheatum and Howe so the chart has been replaced with something like a happiness index. This makes no sense as an economic principle and even less on a personal level. You want to make America a fairer place, buy your own damn accidental loss insurance. If you're a good lookin' babe you should insure your looks. If you are a surgeon you insure your hands. An electrical engineer should insure his brain. A pilot his bullwinkle. Buy the most insurance you can afford. This system yields the same results but does not seek to find fault. Like divorce you know? I'll bet the Lawyers can convince me otherwise. :^o

President Lincoln said: You don't make poor people rich by making rich people poor. We should heed that.

EB
Truly the last of the worlds great procrastinators.
User avatar
Emory Bored
Posts: 1296
Joined: Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:18 am
Location: Sparks, Nevada

Previous

Return to Aviation Regulation and Law

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: angrypeppers, GumpAir, soyAnarchisto and 2 guests