Crash at Johnson Creek

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Re: Crash at Johnson Creek

Postby jomac » Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:05 pm

good grief what's a few crashes...when my cfi buddy from wyo was staying there, a few birds came in on the end of a sling, they too crashed "somewhere" but no one killed...so they hauled them off on a truck. big deal...while i am sorry for their circumstance, they can get other birds...glad that "they" are all OK...
as a group we gotta get over the "seemingly terrible" act of crashing. if u r an outdoor guy, and i mean everything fromatv's, sleds, heavenforbid skateboards, deep snow skiier/boarder, hiker or etc, it comes with the frickin' territory...! quit worrying about what everybody thinks if we bend something. they aint gonna close off our access to places 'cause of a little bent metal. go land these places if u want to. do it responsibly. do it with respect to leave it pristine for everyone else. best yet, get a local CFI, and there are some damn good ones to go with you! challis to mccall, u can find a pro if u ask, do it and it is $ well spent.

granted, we dont need the neg publicity, but still we have a right to be there as much as anyone else...SO, if u should end up at JC, like i have damn it 7 years ago with a crunched bird,use it as a motivator to get a little better at it, dust yourself off, and get goin'...with a little help...!
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Re: Crash at Johnson Creek

Postby soyAnarchisto » Thu Aug 02, 2012 8:08 am

+1 for jomac
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Re: Crash at Johnson Creek

Postby Littlecub » Thu Aug 02, 2012 8:43 am

I don't have that attitude...... Yet....
I'm sure it's coming after I have my turn at bending metal... :lol:

Just like the oral surgeon I know who rather vocally looked down on inferior pilots who landed gear up [-X -right up until he did it! Then he ate a little more crow than most! :lol: =D>

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Re: Crash at Johnson Creek

Postby courierguy » Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:19 am

No pain, no gain! As long I have the camera along, and I'm not grounded long (less then a day in this case), screw it, I have too much fun to worry about screwups much.Image
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Re: Crash at Johnson Creek

Postby GumpAir » Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:47 am

+2... Shit happens.

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Re: Crash at Johnson Creek

Postby aktahoe1 » Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:53 am

That looks way to familiar Courierguy!!!

Jomac- you hit the nail on the head!!!

If you have not bent a plane yet you will...if you fly they way many pilots on this forum like to fly its only a matter of time.

I often hear from pilots that say "I have 15,000 hours and never bent an airplane". That same pilot flies from airport to airport and has never landed on a 300' homemade strip at 8000' either. This is a backcountry flying forum. There are those that want to fly the airplane and those that do. If you do, your going have an incident one day. Just have a look at some of the more respected pilots on several of these type forums. ALL have had there moment...ALL OF THEM...sure makes me think more seriously about getting an experimental.

It makes me crazy when the armchair monday morning quarter backs start given there 2c when generally speaking they are the ones that have 15,000 hours flying from one 3000' paved runway to another or the guy that has less than 500 hours and thinks he has.

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Re: Crash at Johnson Creek

Postby cropduster13 » Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:03 am

Well maybe you guy's do ,but if you dont count the C-188, the kitfox ,long eze etc ...ugh nevermind :oops:
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Re: Crash at Johnson Creek

Postby bcdpilot » Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:00 am

Some of us fly for a living and cant afford to have a revocation or suspension for crashing at a 300' strip at 8000' or my companies insurance not cover me for doing something stupid and lose my job.
just my 2 cents worth
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Re: Crash at Johnson Creek

Postby hicountry » Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:52 am

What about the crash at Johnson Creek!??
Where are the pictures, the eye witness, the bent metal, the gore?
All I have been seeing about this crash is the BS. :roll:
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Re: Crash at Johnson Creek

Postby cropduster13 » Thu Aug 02, 2012 1:37 pm

bcdpilot wrote:Some of us fly for a living and cant afford to have a revocation or suspension for crashing at a 300' strip at 8000' or my companies insurance not cover me for doing something stupid and lose my job.
just my 2 cents worth



Sorry for my poor attemp at humor,just saying it can and will happen to any of us no matter how great we think we are :D
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Re: Crash at Johnson Creek

Postby soyAnarchisto » Thu Aug 02, 2012 2:09 pm

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Re: Crash at Johnson Creek

Postby Littlecub » Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:27 pm

All I have been seeing about this crash is the BS. :roll:


Get a BS filter. :wink:

It is what it is....
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Re: Crash at Johnson Creek

Postby GumpAir » Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:14 pm

It's like riding a dirt bike. I don't care how good you are, sooner or later you're gonna biff it. If you don't want to crash, don't play in the dirt.

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Re: Crash at Johnson Creek

Postby clippwagon » Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:39 pm

jomac wrote:...deep snow skiier/boarder...


What if I'm a shallow snow skiier/boarder? Does that still count? :roll:
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Re: Crash at Johnson Creek

Postby Battson » Thu Aug 02, 2012 8:16 pm

courierguy wrote:No pain, no gain! As long I have the camera along, and I'm not grounded long (less then a day in this case), screw it, I have too much fun to worry about screwups much.Image


Did you bend the crank?? Obviously the prop was a writeoff?

Cool that it's cheap enough for you to take that attitude.
I wish I could fit all my backcountry hauling needs into a plane small enough to afford me that attitude..... still, the GA guys say the price of my experimental IO-540 makes it a "throwaway engine"...?! #-o Not to me!


aktahoe1 wrote:If you have not bent a plane yet you will...if you fly they way many pilots on this forum like to fly its only a matter of time.

It's not the flying that has me worried. Landing seems to be the charm [-o<
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Re: Crash at Johnson Creek

Postby jomac » Thu Aug 02, 2012 8:22 pm

good point gump...so true...my pro cowboy buddies say it like this..."pay your money, take your chances"

as for pics of the birds in the slings, we have 'em but really dont feel its our place to post 'em...if they themselves want to post the pics that would be their deal...again glad they are OK...now let's go flyin'...!
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Re: Crash at Johnson Creek

Postby Littlecub » Thu Aug 02, 2012 8:40 pm

Get a BS filter. :wink:


Well, I guess I gone and stooped low enough to quote myself.... #-o
but, about the 'BS' aspect of the site.
Yes, I'm primarily here for the spectacular marriage of flying and the backcountry,
but it is the humor/wit/sarcasm/repartee/gaffs/thread creep/hijacks/etc. that keep this site fresh and enjoyable.
We have a lot of strong personalities aboard (and sharp wit), and I must say that all in all we 'usually' do a fine job of meshing together and generating a unique blend of both entertainment and information for each other's enjoyment.
Thank you, Great Zane, for your efforts on our behalf.

And there you have a 'double dose' of..
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Re: Crash at Johnson Creek

Postby OregonMaule » Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:03 pm

Littlecub wrote:
Get a BS filter. :wink:


Well, I guess I gone and stooped low enough to quote myself.... #-o
but, about the 'BS' aspect of the site.
Yes, I'm primarily here for the spectacular marriage of flying and the backcountry,
but it is the humor/wit/sarcasm/repartee/gaffs/thread creep/hijacks/etc. that keep this site fresh and enjoyable.
We have a lot of strong personalities aboard (and sharp wit), and I must say that all in all we 'usually' do a fine job of meshing together and generating a unique blend of both entertainment and information for each other's enjoyment.
Thank you, Great Zane, for your efforts on our behalf.

And there you have a 'double dose' of..
lc :roll: #-o

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Re: Crash at Johnson Creek

Postby 58Skylane » Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:35 am

OregonMaule wrote:
Littlecub wrote:
Get a BS filter. :wink:


Well, I guess I gone and stooped low enough to quote myself.... #-o
but, about the 'BS' aspect of the site.
Yes, I'm primarily here for the spectacular marriage of flying and the backcountry,
but it is the humor/wit/sarcasm/repartee/gaffs/thread creep/hijacks/etc. that keep this site fresh and enjoyable.
We have a lot of strong personalities aboard (and sharp wit), and I must say that all in all we 'usually' do a fine job of meshing together and generating a unique blend of both entertainment and information for each other's enjoyment.
Thank you, Great Zane, for your efforts on our behalf.

And there you have a 'double dose' of..
lc :roll: #-o

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Re: Crash at Johnson Creek

Postby akavidflyer » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:30 am

X4 Without some good natured banter and a few rounds lobbed over the bow here and there, this place would be boring as hell and suck! Most do a great job of being funny (sarcastic and witty) and only a few take the occational stroll across the line.. And most members are quick to break out teh big stick and beat them back to reality.

If it was not for the humor and comraderie I see on the site, I would not waste my time here
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